Well if they both agree they are not serious yet it's premature to say he's being scammed. That said, I've heard it's very difficult for single Ukrainian women to come here by themselves because of the scamming.

you are all probably right, you gonna get scammed, under no circumstgances send ANY money, thats the key secret, most of them work for translation agency, they get a cut, after a few mails they say they can't afford any more mail to send so you put money on account, they pile through through account quickly by sending pictures and loads of mails, then you renew your account and so on, attractive girls make a lot of money doing this so does the agency, this is a fact my friends, its easy to spot the signs once you know, quick tips, they tell you they love you, they struggle to pay rent, look for sending same pictures (this costs you money), they send 2-5 every mail, they never answer direct questions, at some point they will ask you for money, lets face it if you want out of a country you wouldn't wait for someone to mail you, on unlimited accounts you get few mails (cos they don't make so much). They usually have about 10 accounts at once so they can't be specific about things and sometimes they slip up, if you went on a local date you would meet them in a few days, these women will drag it on for months claiming they can't get time off work or some other excuse. try to write to one who uses internet cafe and can translate mails, no cost to you, but still be careful as some eventually ask for money, be on you guard the money you lose can be replaced but not you damaged ego or pride. I know women inside out wherever they come from, hope advice stops some of you guys making fools of yourselves, there is some genuine ones but the trick is finding them, best advice if you can't resist, book holiday there for yourself, meet lady in real cicumstances as you normally would but still be aware that some operate in resorts too.

Steve.

Steve.

Thanks Steve for your advice. Very true indeed!!

Hi there

I totally agree with Eddie050. His comments are proportional, balanced and true! I know lots of guys who have formed very successful loving committed relationships with Ukrainian ladies. For some, it took a while but eventually their persistence and learnt wisdom won the day.

The earlier comments made about women who scam is unnecessarily pessimistic and untrue. I have been to Ukraine 8 times and met some genuinely sincere, decent, kind women. Many are simply looking for a decent responsible guy who will be able to provide a stable foundation and relationship on which to build a loving family. Russians and Ukrainians are a traditional people who highly value the family. Many of these women are very educated and come from good families. They are simply looking for a good man who can become a responsible & loving husband and father.

There are scammers in Russia & Ukraine, as indeed there are in the West! You just have to educate yourself about the warning signs and use your common sense rather than allow your emotions to get carried away.

Finding a decent marriage agency who have a system of rigorous screening checks and vet all the ladies individually is partly the key. For me, it's been a question of trial & error & learning from your mistakes. I've now met someone and we are working towards obtaining a visa for the UK to come here this year.

Yes, it's harder to find a life partner this way but I think people who put in the effort required tend to be the kind who want life long committed relationships and are more willing to work at a relationship than those who just want everything handed to them on a plate without putting in any effort or work.

The moral here is, you get out what you put in.

Andrew

hi ive met so many beautiful ladies but most all after a few emails want to marry ? love you forever? or want to move to you? im yet to meet one woman who doesnt talk about sex and just gets on with talking about what were here for